Friday, January 31, 2014

Session 3 - In Depth with Subsidiary Motions - January 29


Responses from your Tickets Out from Session 3!
What are you curious about?
  • How often some organizations move to limit debate
    • Depends on the organization
  • Why did this class start?
    • You should ask Dr. Foster!
  • Subsidiary motions and what they are all about
    • They Assist, Postpone, Modify, and Dispose of the Main Motion
    • RONR, p. 62-66
  • Better ways to run committee meetings
    • We’ll learn that in session #12
    • See RONR, p. 489-542 if you want information before then
  • Best way to deal with people who don’t see the value of Parli Pro
    • Talk to them and explain why it’s so useful! Anyone have any other ideas??
  • Can you reconsider the motion to postpone indefinitely?
    • An affirmative vote is reconsiderable RONR, p. 127, l. 17-20
  • Still a bit confused about the difference between Lay on the Table and Postpone Definitely
    • Lay on the Table is meant to put something aside for a short time because there is something more urgent that needs to happen right now. It doesn’t set a certain time to take the item up again (need to use Take from the Table). It is also not debatable or amendable. Postpone definitely just puts it off until a certain time (or another meeting).  This may be because you need to hold off on making a decision or because it needs to be decided at a more convenient time. It is debatable and amendable. RONR, p. 209-218 and RONR, p. 179-191
  • The order of precedence
    • For what we have learned so far: Lay on the Table, Call the Previous Question, Limit or Extend Limits of Debate, Postpone Definitely, Refer/Commit, Amend, Postpone Indefinitely, Main Motion
  • How difficult the Parli Pro exam is
    • If you study and practice, you should be ok! Below is some basic information and example questions
    • All AP tests will use the same references and will consist of two parts: PART I: Five (5) open book parliamentary procedure research questions using the 2011 edition of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised (to be provided by the taker of the test).
    • Example: List the page and beginning line number of the following statement: “Until the chair states the question, the maker has the right to modify his motion as he pleases or to withdraw it entirely.” 
      • Answer: Page 40 Beginning line number: 8
    • PART II: Forty-five (45) multiple choice questions taken from Dunbar’s Manual of Parliamentary Test Questions and the current edition of Robert’s Rules of Order Newly Revised.
    • Example: Which of the following motions can the Previous Question be applied to?
      • A. Adjourn
      • B. Limit or Extend Limits of Debate
      • C. Raise a Question of Privilege
      • D. Lay on the Table
      • Answer: B
  • When incidental motions take priority over subsidiary motions
    • Incidental motions rank higher when they are actually applicable to the motion that is pending and need to be taken care of immediately RONR, p. 72, l. 24-36
  • How do you properly suspend the rules?
    • Next Week!
  • More about previous question
    • See RONR, p. 197-209
  • How does the chair keep it all in line?
    • Taking notes or asking for the secretary’s help
What did you learn?
  • You can amend an amendment
  • Characteristics of the seven subsidiary motions
    1. Lay on the Table
    2. Call the Previous Question
    3. Limit of Extend Limits of Debate
    4. Postpone Definitely
    5. Refer/Commit
    6. Amend
    7. Postpone Indefinitely
  • Subsidiary motions are third in precedence compared to privileged motions
  • How to properly use the previous question
  • All about motions :)
  • The specifics of subsidiary motions and the ins and outs of them
  • Call the previous question is not debatable
  • How to make subsidiary motions properly 
  • Gavel Taps
  • There are many ways to use the subsidiary motions to your advantage and ultimately get your way
  • The proper use of a lot of the motions I had sort of known about
  • There are four types of committees
  • Applying the motions to real scenarios
What do you want to learn more about?
  • Why would you use postpone indefinitely instead of just voting it down?
    • Postpone indefinitely is used when you can’t adopt or reject the motion without undesirable consequences. It kills the motion without taking a direct vote on the motion. RONR, p. 126, l. 7-9
    • Also for strategy purposes (the Parliamentarian’s Motion) RONR, p. 128, l. 17-33
  • A way to speak properly during a meeting
    • We’ll go over debate later on. But until then try RONR, p. 385-399
  • Committee of the Whole
    • RONR, p. 529-542
  • Looking forward to running through more practice session
    • Yay!
  • If the chairman makes a significant mistake, how is that corrected or brought to attention?
    • Point of Order…we’ll learn about that next week!
  • How to become more fluent in my Parli Pro
    • Read and Practice!
  • Incidental Motions
    • That’s next week!
  • How reconsider works
    • We’ll learn about that in session #6
  • Example of debating the motion to postpone indefinitely

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