Reading Into Rescind and Reconsider

Previous Notice: “A requirement of previous notice means that announcement that the motion will be introduced-indicating its exact content as described below-must be included in the call of the meeting at which the motion will be brought up”

(RONR 11^th ed.), pg. 121, II. 22-27

“The call of a meeting is generally sent to all members a reasonable time in advance, which may be prescribed in the bylaws.”

(RONR 11^th ed.), pg. 121, II. 30-32

Rescind and Previous Notice: A motion to rescind will only “require previous notice if they are to be adopted by only a majority vote. Accordingly, it is ordinarily desirable to give previous notice if there is a possibility of serious disagreement”

(RONR 11^th ed.), pg. 122, II. 5-8

The previous notice can be given when someone else has the floor if they have not begun to speak, while business is pending and even after the vote to adjourn has been made if the chair has not declared the meeting adjourned.

The reason previous notice is so important for the rescind is because members need to have time to decide before debating on it. If members were aloud to constantly rescind motions without some notice, then heated arguments could be recycled throughout a meeting, thus a rescind would be counterproductive. Hence why 2/3 vote is required without previous notice, so it is not easy to undo the work of the assembly.

The Effect of Rescind: Rescind aka Repeal or Annul is used to strike out the entirety of a main motion, resolution or rule previously adopted. Basically, to bring back a motion and then kill it. The motion Amend Something Previously adopted will bring back a motion for it to be amended.

Rescind vs. Reconsider vs. To Call Up Reconsider vs. Reconsider and Enter:

Rescind: Bring back passed motion to kill it.

Reconsider: Bring back motion that could of either passed or failed for the assembly to reconsider the vote. Difference from rescind: Does not debate on the motion but rather the vote for the motion.

To Call Up Reconsider: To make a motion to reconsider when it is not able to be acted upon and then taking it up later.

Reconsider and Enter: To vote to reconsider a motion before it can be acted upon, then calling up the reconsider at a different session. Enter in to minutes provides a sort of previous notice to gain support.

Why Use Reconsider and Enter?

Say I make a motion to spend our time in #AgEdParli by playing non-stop checkers. You know you don’t have the votes to shut this down, so you make a motion to reconsider and enter to the minutes. This will place a suspending effect on the original motion. Meaning, it will not be taken up until it is called up at the next meeting. Therefore, you will be able to rally more votes until then, and fellow members will see that you would like to reconsider this motion that is suspended.

Session 7 - Midterm Review - March 5

Responses from you Ticket Outs from Session 8!

What are you curious about?

• How hard the midterm will be! STUDY TIPS
• Don't worry too much, but make sure you know the ins and outs of your chart quizzes and the material covered in class! The questions will be pulled directly from the packets you received in class, so answer all of those and particularly review what you got wrong!
• When Suspend the Rules suspends parliamentary procedure.
• What will the performance section of the midterm look like?
• Dr. Foster will chair a 'meeting' in which six students participate at a time. You'll each get one (1) motion that you will have to demonstrate.
• Grading for this section:
• 20%: correctly demonstrated
• 10%: incorrectly demonstrated
• 0%: not demonstrated
• Does the Chair always talk the majority of the time?
• No. In class we're don't debate near as much as the amount that actually happens in deliberative bodies, so in class the Chair seems to talk the majority of the time.
• Difference between the final and the midterm?
• The final is the accreditation exam so it is just multiple choice. You can choose to take it for actual SAEP accreditation if you would like, but will need to pay the $5 testing fee in order to do so.
• Why can't Take From the Table be made at the time a recess has been scheduled?
• As stated in RONR, p. 300, Take From the Table takes precedence over no other motion. Additionally, when a group is not in session no motions related to the group may be made.

What did you learn?

• Midterm structure and review
• How to use all 24 motions 
• Putting everything together
• You can adjourn before a vote
• #Gryffindor4Life & #gryffindorcantstop <-- lots of pride! Congrats!
• How to make 24 motions in ~15min
• Obviously in real life there will be much more debate and difference of opinion (no one will be racing to get all 24 in quickly!) so don't expect this to only ever take this long! ;) 
• Reconsider is only debatable if the motion it's applied to is debatable
• Better practice with motions in actual meetings
• The three ways to vote to Rescind

   
What do you want to learn more about?

• What breed of dog we would like?!
• Gotta be one of these!
• How to use the motions effectively
  
The best advice I can give is to know what each motions means and does, and then to know its characteristics. You'll have an arsenal of parlia pro knowledge!
• Elections and Officers
• See you on April 2nd! Cassie's excited to teach this session :) Check out Robert's while you're bored on the beach and start looking into it!
• More mock meetings please!
• I've passed it on!
• Voting
• Right after the midterm on March 26th! But again, check out Robert's while you're bored on the beach and start looking into it!
• Rules of an Assembly organization
• Each one will have their own, so check out their Bylaws.
• Taking From the Table cannot interrupt a series of connected main motions. Can you show me where in the book that is?
• RONR, p. 302-303

Session 7 - In Depth with Motions that Bring a Question Again Before the Assembly

Responses from you Ticket Outs from Session 7!

What are you curious about?

• Why is reconsider considered an American idea?
• Robert's says it is a motion that originated in America.
• Voting
• We'll go over this during Session 10.
• Reviewing Incidental Main Motions
• RONR, pg. 101-102, l. 5-26
• How often will the Zombie Motions come up?
• It depends on the organization. They usually are not used nearly as often as the other motions.
• Changing the by-laws of an organization
• We’ll learn more about that in Session 12 with Katie. Until then, check out RONR, pg. 592-599
• Can I retake the quiz before class?
• Yes! Email Katie or I and we’ll set up a time
• Rules in regards to electing and removing officers
• Chapter 14 has all about nominations and elections and RONR, pg. 650-654 is a section about removal of officers. We’ll learn more in session 11, but a lot of it will also depend on the organization’s bylaws.
• The way Congress uses reconsider
• Senate rules permit one motion to reconsider any question decided by vote, if offered by a senator who voted on the winning side. Normally a supporter of the outcome immediately moves to reconsider the vote, and the same senator or another immediately moves to table this motion, thus securing the outcome of the vote. http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/reconsider.htm
• This site has links to the rules and procedures that Congress follows. http://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Rules_and_Procedure_vrd.htm
• If someone does lie about voting on the prevailing side could they have any consequences if it’s proven?
• RONR, pg. 645-648 tells about discipline procedures for members who do something wrong during a meeting. You may also have certain consequences set aside for infractions in your bylaws as well.
• Previous notice
• This is an announcement that you are going to bring up a motion. It should be included in the call of the meeting or stated at the previous meeting. It also needs to include the entire content of the motion you are going to present. See RONR, pg. 121-124

What did you learn?

• Taking someone at their word regarding reconsider requires the chair to take that person at their word
• Motions that Bring Back Again Before the Assembly (MTBBABA)
• Three “Zombie Motions” – Take from the Table, Rescind, and Reconsider
• Discussion and amendments need to be germane to the motions
• You can vote on a reconsidered motion at the next meeting
• What can be reconsidered
• Reconsider is truly an American hero
• Rescind and expunge from the minutes can be completed with a majority of the entire membership
• You cannot reconsider the reconsider
• More strategies of how to use different motions together
• Reconsider Yes Chart

What do you want to learn more about?

• Getting accustomed to the rules of these three motions
• It'll take practice!
• The midterm
• Parts include: Written multiple choice, Research (finding answers in Robert’s), and  Performance
• We’ll review and go into more details next week
• Will there be midterm review material posted on Angel?
• We’ll hand out a review packet next session. Use the weekly quizzes and supplemental materials that are on Angel to study too.
• What goes into bylaws?
• We’ll learn about this in Session 12, but also check out Chapter 18
• How to use reconsider if your membership/organization does not use this idea
• Bring the motion back up at another meeting
• More about reconsider
• See RONR, pg. 315 and use the Yes Chart
• How to use the motions better
• Keep practicing and it will become more natural and easier. Also, try to think of ways that you can play motions off of each other to get what you want accomplished.
• Use of notification to change the vote necessary to pass these motions
• Reconsider and Take from the Table do not change based on previous notice. They both require a majority to pass. 
• Rescind requires a 2/3 vote or a majority vote if you give previous notice, or a majority of the entire membership. See RONR, pg. 306, l. 24-31
• Call the Previous Question logistics
• A member calls for the previous question and another seconds it. The chair takes a rising vote (because it needs 2/3 vote to pass). If it passes, all debate stops and the assembly votes immediately.